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New Questions From Rose Just Before Chakras and Meridians.

Hi Everyone,

Here are some new questions from Rose.


  • Is the “Signs of Disorientation” Page just for our info or how would we use this during a session?

This is for your info to help remind you about the signs in yourself and in your client.

  • Is B(a) disoriented action/feeling an option and B(b) Oriented action/feeling a must do?  If you have both B(a) and B(b) must they match? For example:  If I have a disoriented action come up for B(a), should I have an Oriented action come up for B(b) or could it just be an Oriented feeling?

The way that Chloe has written this, B(a)  is an option and B(b) is something that needs    to be identified.  It is all “mix and match”according to what you get from the (mcs). As in every part of the work, except the processes like the ECR, using your muscle indicator is the final guide.

  • Who is the ‘We’ in option C(b)?  PPs book says “within yourself, with another person or with a group.” How do you explain the ‘We’ when it’s “within yourself”?

This whole section C is about being oriented to others, so entrainment is not about a person relating to themselves. The “We” is exactly that, another person or group of people having the exact energetic synchronicity shared with each other, like the pendulum clocks having their pendulums swing back and forth  in exactly the same timing and rhythm together.

  • Why is  F (Orientation to RR) after E (the Orientation Modality)? Shouldn’t the Orientation to RR come first?

      My guess is that it is this way because all of the other Orientation items are things that directly influence the person herself/himself. The Orientation to RR through explanation is more informational and of a secondary nature. Also, F could come up more frequently   with new clients. It would come up if there was a piece of the explanation that the client needed further understanding about, as it is presumed that a new client would have been given an explanation of the system prior to beginning the training of  their muscle indicator. This would be in addition to that explanation.
Underlying Need:

  • Is that a past unmet need or a present need or both?  For example if Category #6 option 9) “Sleep” comes up.  How would you explain that to the client?

Usually an underlying need was not met in the past and the need continues to be present   in the present.

You would need to (mcs) to see if, for example if the Life need for sleep came up,  anything needs to be explained or details need to be named by the client.       You would (mcs) if you needed to ask the client if it struck a note or not… A session is a delicate balance between keeping the client in their optimal healing state which means that everything does not require an explanation, especially the first time an item comes up. When rechecking the statements more meaningful connections naturally occur when the whole picture is seen together.


  • Earlier Exp. Repatterning

(J) on page 80 TUPS, are we representing the actual parent or an ideal parent?

The actual parent is represented saying the developmental needs and the idealized parent is represented in the ECR.

That’s all for now. Come and visit next week for more.

More Questions Following the Transforming Unconscious Patterns Seminar

Here are the rest of the questions that Rose sent out. I invite all practitioners to comment and add their perspectives.

*Appreciation Repatterning (PP page 204) E(a-c): Can you give more clarification on how this section should go. Do I need a statement for (a) or just use it to Identify the person in (b)?

You are correct, in (a) you are just identifying the person whose appreciation the client needs in (b) and (c).

What kinds of things is (b) looking for when it asks How you want to be appreciated? We obviously need to write down what we’re told to repeat back to the client & then cr for hearing & integrating, right.

In (b) the client identifies how they would feel appreciated by that person, what does the client want the person to appreciate about them and what would the person do that would allow the client to feel that appreciation. For example: the practitioner would stand in for the client’s mother and the mother would appreciate the client for all of the client’s help given to her over the years… The practitioner/mother could say” John I so appreciate all that you have done to help me out over the years, all of the times you help with my computer, with the yard” ( etc)  Then, as you stated “ We obviously need to write down what we’re told to repeat back to the client & then cr for hearing & integrating, right?”  Right.

 How is option (c) different than option (b)? I’m a little confused.

In (c) the client is given another way of identifying the exact kind of appreciation he/she needs and adding a another dimension to what has already been expressed directly  by him/her when  the practitioner (mcs)’s from the options presented, and the same person identified in (a) is used.

As in all parts of the system, the practitioner (mcs)’s to see what the parts of the Repatterning or key the client will get the most benefit from using in the session. The muscle indicator is the final “judge”

*Earlier Experience Repatterning (TUPS page 76 E(3): I need more info on miasms again. It’s come up for me & I don’t know what I’m looking for.

For your information here is an article that has lots of information about miasms. http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/homeopathy_miasm_gina.htm.

I think the important part here, is to identify that there is an energy non-coherence that the client resonates with, and if it is a miasm, rather than using the new statement that has just been put into this edition of the repatterning, simply state.. “ a miasm” and *[cr] that, after explaining to the client what a miasm is. I honestly don’t see how a person or practitioner can, with certainty, say that a symptom they have is clearly related to a generational tendency and that they are free of it.

What do you do if you draw a complete blank when you’re doing a self-session and none of the options you mc are what’s needed?

If you are especially referring to this item’s leading to a complete blank.. I would draw a blank too and it is best just to name what you do have as a general point of information rather than getting specific about something that cannot be known about with any degree of certainty. I think that the info I gave in the previous paragraph illustrates this.

Underlying Needs (Rainbow Bk):
*Categories 1- 5 have statements, but the ones we added-Categories 6 &7 do not. How should they be stated?

They should just be named and resonance for what is named checked. For example, Spirit- level need “Joy” you  just *[cr} joy.

*Category 6 option 10. Spiritual Connection: Is that referring to connection to our essence or to the Divine?

This would be highly interpretive and dependent upon one’s own personal spiritual perspective. My opinion, and only my opinion is that our essence is a reflection of the Divine so it does not matter which way to view it. There have been times when I have specifically gotten, through muscles checking, that I must be specific with a client about a spiritual matter like this.  For example I have had to write “God in me” as part of a client’s statement at least once, rather than just writing “God”.


There is no manual on how to work with animals, so I believe that those of us who do Repatternings with animals do them in highly individualized ways. These answers are how I work with animals and I will send this on to Netta Pfifer, www.animalrepatterning.com whose practice is almost exclusively with animals to see what she would say as well.

*I’ve been working with my cat who’s having some trouble. When working with animals in the ‘Problems’/’Intentions’ sections, how do you gather information. I don’t always know exactly what the problem is or what his intention should be. Do I write down lots of options & muscle check?

I have usually done my animal sessions with the owner’s permission and with the owners asking permission of their pets for me to do the work. I know that might sound a little far out, but pet owners talk with their pets and often do get a sense of communication with them.

That being said, I prefer to do proxy work with pets because pets are so often having difficulties because they are expressing something for their owners that the owners may not be aware of themselves. For example, I have heard that sometimes pets take on illness to spare their owners of having afflictions.

In all proxy work, including that for infants, fetuses and animals, whenever there is a question posed that requires an answer, the practitioner just gets quiet and listens inside themselves to hear whatever they hear. Then, write down whatever comes through. This is not a guessing process which could be a left brain kind of inquiry or investigation “ maybe it’s____”. Rather it is more imaginative as a last resort if nothing is “heard”. Once options do present themselves through intutition, you (mcs) for what is the best or primary item.

When working with a client’s pet-how would you muscle check? Do you use the pet owner’s arm for *cr or *mcs? ( I haven’t practiced on anyone else’s pet-just curious.)

I personally don’t because I think that there would be too much energetic input by the owner and maybe not enough from the animal’s energy field. That’s why I do animal proxy sessions.

I will ask Netta for her input as well.

Thanks Bunches! Can’t wait until June!

Thank you Rose for all of these thoughtful questions and we’re going to have a great time in June!

One Response to Notes After the Transforming Unconscious Patterns Seminar

Here is part of what Rose posted as a comment this week ( in italics to indicate I am quoting some of her questions) along with my response to some of her questions.

Problems Into Opportunities:
*B(d): Rainbow book lists the second negative attitude as ‘victim’, Primary Patterns lists it as ‘helpless’. Are they the same? Is one better terminology than the other?

The terminology of “helpless” I believe reflects Chloe’s more recent thinking, as the Primary Patterns book is a newer edition than the Rainbow Book.  They are both referring to the same negative attitude statements but there is a different quality to the words victim and helpless.

The word “victim” has more charge to it but in the context of the advanced seminars- the Family Constellations Repatternings written by Carin Block, the word victim is not used pejoratively and Chloe might have been using it in that context in the earlier Rainbow book listing.

My opinion is that using “victim” can be helpful sometimes, with someone who has done lots of work on themselves and who will not be shocked by the use of the term, and using “helpless” may be preferred at other times. As always, you can muscle check on yourself before you say either out loud to see if it is important for the client to have  one or the other label used.

*C(h): I muscle-checked that 2 neurotransmitters were needed. Is it ok to put both on line?

As Chloe has written this, it is clear that she believes that only one neurotransmitter is “most needed”.  Therefore, if you’ve gotten two, it is best to see which one is primary. I agree that less is best here.
*TUPS C(h) option b: I know we treated this section with Caution, but when practicing on myself I like to check what comes up for me. Am I supposed to make a statement. For example: (a) Sleep. Do we state “sleep”. or make a statement with it?

Since we are at most using this section as information, I would read what is written about the activity and then just *[cr] for what is listed. In your example, just state “sleep” to make sure that you will be resonating with it by the end of the session.

Intention For a New Possibility:
*B(a-d): I muscle-checked that I needed an Intention for each of these options. Is that ok or too much for one session? Is it best to list them separately? or is there some way to put them all on line together?

It is just fine to get all of this. It is what was needed then. If you are fluent and flowing with the work, and you have the time you can do more. If each item added makes it laborious and you have time concerns, ask your system if any of it is more primary or if it is all necessary at this time. Then you only complete what you have time to do including a modality to make the shift happen.  

*D(a+): Do we have information on projections referenced in our books somewhere? I’d like to have more info about it.

I’m really glad that you asked this question. The old version of TUPs, from which this projection section was taken had this explanation by Chloe, on P. 52, October 2002 edition.

“C. Projections

  1. a.      Negative projections-Your mind has the power to work for or against you. If you have negative projections you resonate with concerning your intention, these will undermine your achieving empowered outcomes.
  2. b.      Positive projections- It is important that you resonate with a positive vision of what will happen if you are successful in manifesting your intention. If you do not resonate with your positive projections for the future, you tend to live in a fantasy world of possibilities that never manifest, or to struggle or over-work in order to manifest your aims.”

By the time the next Newsletter goes out, all of her wonderful questions will be addressed, so come back again soon to see the rest.

Thank you so much for all of this, Rose, and I wish that I had more time right now to respond to all of your questions. Keep them coming and I’ll answer them as soon as I possibly can.

For any seasoned Practitioners who may be reading this, I invite your comments and additions to the questions. Please feel free to comment!